Thursday, June 17

ISU Congress: Now We Might Be Getting Somewhere

The Globe and Mail is reporting that among additional changes from the ISU Barcelona Congress this week include the doing away with the randomizing of the judging panel, where only certain scores count. The number of judges on each panel seems like it has changed from year to year in the IJS system, but it got to the point at this Olympics where only five of the nine scores counted. This means, if my former math classes have taught me anything, that in all reality, SIX of the nine judges could score "skater A" higher than "skater B", but if four of those judges scores are thrown out (due either to not including at all, or being the high/low score that is tossed), it means that it could then turn into a situation where "skater B" has three judges giving them the higher overall total, while "skater A" is now left with just two judges instead of the original four. Doesn't make much sense. I know it's not an ordinal system, but the scores obviously do add up.

When I first started this blog, I included an interview with Patrick Ibens, one of the nine people assigned to judge the mens short program at the 2010 Olympics. While it originally was planned to be a discussion about Lysacek vs. Plushenko and his general thoughts about the competition as a whole, it turned into a big Q/A session about the current state of judging and why there are so many problems with the system; he was hardly at a loss of words about these issues! This recent update is definitely a step in the right direction, but we also need the abolishment of the anonymous judging. Judges should be able to mark the skaters how they feel it necessary, without reprimands from their own federations for not holding a skater up or down.

Update: Timothy Goebel has updated his Facebook account mentioning that the "spiral is out". I would guess this means that the plan to reduce the short program elements for the ladies from eight to seven is successful, and it might also mean that the spiral in the free skate will now be scored on the same scale for each skater, and then a GOE is applied to that one scale depending on the quality of the element. If I remember correctly from the 200+ page original Agenda, the plan was to remove one of the footwork sequences in the mens short program, as well, and then assign the same set scale for the second sequence in the free skate. There seems to be no mentioning of that change, but I can't see the ladies having seven elements and the men keeping eight.


Anonymous said...

All of this should have changed BEFORE the olympics!!

Anonymous said...

Patrick Ibens judged men´s short at the Olympics? Oh, now everybody knows who gave Plushenko those low marks. I like Patrick Ibens, coward and hypocrite but anyway I didn´t expect too much from him!

Maria said...

I hope this means we can finally have a bit more variation in the Ladies' SP. I'll miss the step sequence in Men's if it goes, though.