Saturday, November 20

Setting up the Grand Prix Final: The Men

I woke up late and watched the last four men. When I get home later, I'm going to watch all of the short programs that are now archived and probably have to wait a day again to see the free skates that I will miss. Oh well.

Anyways, here's the Grand Prix standings after five events for the men:

1 Daisuke Takahashi JPN 30 points
2 Patrick Chan CAN 28 points
3 Tomas Verner CZE 26 points (1st place/3rd place)
4 Nobunari Oda JPN 26 points (2nd place/2nd place)
5 Jeremy Abbott USA 24 points
6 Adam Rippon USA 20 points

Rippon will obviously be pushed out of the top six following Bompard.

Skaters competing next week to try to qualify for the Final:
Takahiko Kozuka JPN (already with 15 points)
Brandon Mroz USA (already with 13 points)
Florent Amodio FRA (already with 11 points)
Kevin Reynolds CAN (already with 9 points)
Brian Joubert FRA (already with 9 points)

So, a lot of things could shake up who makes the Finals. Kozuka looks good with at least a 4th place finish, Mroz will probably need another 2nd place finish, which seems unlikely (but how unlikely was his Cup of China silver?), Amodio has a small shot with a VERY strong silver medal but would probably need to win, and Reynolds/Joubert's only shots are really if they win the competition.

In my opinion, who does the Final spot come down to (assuming Kozuka qualifies)?
I think it's going to be a three-way race between Abbott (already at 24 points), Amodio, and Joubert. Brian doesn't particularly skate well at Bompard, but he usually has one strong Grand Prix regular-season showing. That definitely wasn't Cup of China.

Thoughts?

18 comments:

Aaron said...

Praying for the Joubert, Reynolds, Amodio podium (in that order) so Jeremy makes the final!!!!

Tony said...

Then you better pray for Kozuka to finish 5th and not 4th, because a 4th would beat Jeremy.

Aaron said...

OMG...that still doesn't cut if for Jeremy unless Kozuka finishes 5th or lower!

I'm depressed.

Aaron said...

Let me think about this: New Podium hope...

Kozuka, Joubert, Reynolds...and that seems plausible...

Tony said...

Mroz, with a bronze medal, would need 218.61 points to beat Abbott on the total score tie-breaker. If he does that, and Joubert or Reynolds is not the winner, he would qualify. His competition score in China was 216.80.. Obviously the silver medal makes his ticket guaranteed.

It's going to be tough, but he's not out of it just yet.

Anonymous said...

It's all very complicated. I'd _love_ to see Jeremy in the GPF, but I'm not going to pray someone else bombs for that to happen. Nope.

Anonymous said...

I would like Takahiko to win the gold or silver. Because he is "№3" in Japanese team he is always underscored. I really hate that. Nobu is a greay skater, but his skating skills and performs are not so good as Kozuka's. If Takahiko win his second GP gold maybe judges finally stop underscore him.
And I would like Abbott to make the final

Anonymous said...

Definitely want Jeremy to make GPF. No Joubert, please.

Anonymous said...

Dont be so harsh at Brian... I dont like Jeremy so much but the best will qualify... if it is Jeremy I am OK with that...

Anonymous said...

Love Jeremy- but maybe it would be best for him to not make the final, go home , train and get those boot issues worked out. Then he can come out stronger for Nats, 4CC's and Worlds.

On the positive side, his interpretation of the SP was improved this out, and the costume looked better ( or at least it didn't bug me as much)

I'd like Kozuka to make the final. He's my favorite of the Japanese Men.

Whoever earns the trip should go, right now it doesn't look like Jeremy earned a trip.

Anonymous said...

Joubert and his two-foot skating can just pack it in already. Everyone including the younger skaters are eclipsing him in skating skills and now most top men have quads. So Brian can't even claim to be sole practitioner of that anymore. His style of skating to me stil lacks substance and artistry even though every season he promises us that he's going to evolve artistically. I have to laud him for staying healthy for such a long time and being competitive, but that's all the good things I can say about his skating at this point, nothing personal against him as a person. He seems like a nice provincial bloke.

Anonymous said...

I don't see how Jeremy's skating doesn't deserve a trip to GPF. He earned a medal in both of his Grand Prix events. If it's between Amodio, Joubert, and Abbott for the last spot - and I agree that it probably is - then I don't see how Jeremy is the least deserving of those three. Joubert didn't medal in China. His skating skills are so weak compared to other top men. Amodio won't win the competition, which is the only way I see him getting a bid. Overall, I think Jeremy is the MOST deserving candidate of the three...

Plus, I think looking at the field, Jeremy is the only one of the three who stands a chance to be competitive.

Anonymous said...

Oh Adam~...how I wished that you'd qualify...

Anonymous said...

Ironic how Adam, who has the highest total score of the 3 US men, is the one who isn't going to be at the final... I know he melt down at Skate America, but I feel bad for him

Hope Kozuka and Abbott will complete the GPF

Anonymous said...

I'm willing to bet Mroz is the only Men's single skater at the GPF.

I also think Mroz is the more likely threat to Abbott at Nationals.

Anonymous said...

Just came across this lovely interview from CoR, with Nikolai Morosov. It's in Russian, and he talks about his current pupils for the most part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nP2Tc2kDgY

But, at 6:00 he had a few words to say about "the talented Japanese", Daisuke, Nobunari and Takahiko


- The Japanese, undoubtedly, are more talented... But if you look closer, they are, on the one hand, more talented, but on the other hand take for instance the two of their skaters I worked with in the past, Daisuke and Nobu. He keeps falling on the quad just as he used to in the past.

Kozuka was a mediocre skater, and he's still that now, no medals in major events.

Daisuke, even if he wins something, still skates worse than 3 years ago. I think if there's no work done (with those three) for just a little longer, it will be over (for them), har-har-har!

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Jeez, Tony, I now srsl fear for the chances of mediocre Kozuka to make the Finals!

The other 2 losers Morosov mentions in the interview, are already in. Now how that happened?!

Tony said...

To the last anonymous, is there a transcript (in English) of everything he has to say? I'd love to write a blog post about this, but I want to be 100% sure about what he's saying before I do so.

Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Did you get my comment, Tony? I whote one and saw it posted, but I don't see it now.