I tried to take screen captures from YouTube to show Julia Lipnitskaia's pre-rotations on her Lutz and flip jumps. Obviously the photo quality isn't going to be perfect, but I think they are good examples of just how much she turns on that toe pick before getting into the air. You be the judge.
On the Lutz, her toe is just leaving the ice about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through the first rotation.
Again on the flip, we see her toe still on the ice around that 2/3 mark. Initially, I thought the flip wasn't as severe.